Saturday, 20 June 2009

Hello, fans

A reply to comments

One commentator asks if I bother to read the contributions you make to the blog. The answer is an emphatic Yes. I haven't replied to comments until today as I don't want to stifle debate or seem to have the high-handed last word on any subject.
But to prove I do read your remarks, a few replies:

"Anonymous" says I'm wrong in every respect in my defence of the tied-house system. But as he doesn't say why I'm wrong I can't really reply. His views would be welcomed.

There was some criticism of CAMRA among you. One contribuitors says the campaign is stuck-up and engenders a "us and them" attitude to beer drinking. CAMRA, in common with any consumer organisation, is not perfect but that seems a curious criticism to make. CAMRA stages dozens of beer festivals every month aimed at general beer drinkers, not just its own members. It's about to become 100,000-strong. Doesn't sound like an elitist body to me.

As for the size of the Wells & Young's beer fridge -- I said 1,500 square feet, I will check that out. Figures were never my strong point.

Keep them coming -- and thanks.


Anonymous Fatman said...

Anonymous's assertion that you're wrong in respect of your defence of the tied house system was no doubt satisifed that Fatman's earlier comments pretty succinctly showed your flawed argument. It may be a nice idea to keep the status quo so that the likes of Sheps can continue in their age old ways but it is preventing this industry from shaping up. The tied system does not encourage competition based upon quality and quality is where British beer must stake its future. Brewers already producing high quality ale are being prevented from gaining their deserved market share by the tied barrier.

As Bob said, the times they are a changing and it's time for the old stuffed shirts to move aside.

20 June 2009 at 15:46  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Replying to comments stifling discussion on a blog?

You don't seem to have grasped this blogging thing! You won't come over as high-handed or stifling discussion if you take part in the discussion.

You might however seem to be so if you post articles about it on your blog when they are just replies; rather than making comments and taking part within the discussion.

You might even promote some discussion if you take part in it ;)

23 June 2009 at 12:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fatman: You say "The tied system does not encourage competition" - a statement based on the presumption that competition is a good and desirable thing. Indeed it is a good thing: the lack of it which inhibits cask ale, esp. the micro sector.

In the Protz/CAMRA perspective competition is a bad thing. For them it reeks of all they hate about capitalism - so they seek to reduce it by promoting a controlled beer economy with special case treatment favouring cask ale and legislative impediments to industrial beer. This perspective necessitates the adoption of the fallacious belief that without CAMRA, real would disappear.

11 July 2009 at 10:01  

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